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"I have never ruled against a producer in my life, ever, on anything. Because I learned very early that for the one time you’re right, it will not be permissible. In the long run, you have to protect the freedom of a producer who has a record of doing what’s tasteful."

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In his three-and-a-half hour Archive Interview, Executive Michael Dann discusses his start in television as part of the NBC publicity department. He describes his time with NBC News and his move to CBS, where he worked his way up the ranks to become head of CBS programming. Dann details his experiences overseeing The Defenders, Gilligan's Island, 60 Minutes, and The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, among others, and shares his thoughts on some of his colleagues at both NBC and CBS. He also touches on his work since leaving CBS - consulting for Children's Television Workshop, Warner Communications, and the BBC. Don West conducted the interview in New York on October 26, 1998.

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from the Museum of Broadcast Communications Encyclopedia of Television

Michael Dann

Mike Dann was one of the most successful programming executives in U.S. network television during the 1950s and 1960s. He was known as a "master scheduler" and spent his most successful years at CBS working in tandem with CBS President James Aubrey. He began his television career shortly after World War II as a comedy writer and in 1948 joined NBC, where he would stay for the next ten years. Initially hired to work in the publicity, he soon moved to the programming department and eventually served as head of NBC Entertainment under David Sarnoff. In 1958, he moved to CBS as vice president of programs in New York. In 1963 he was promoted to head of programming, and in 1966 he was appointed senior vice president of programs. During most of his tenure, CBS consistently ranked as the number one network in prime time audience ratings.

Dann held the head programming position at CBS longer than anyone else (from 1963 to 1970), serving under five different CBS Presidents. His success was attributable, in part, to an uncanny ability to gauge William Paley's probable reaction to most program ideas. Dann was often referred to as "the weathervane" for changing his opinions to match those of his bosses. In spite of this reputation Dann was not one to avoid controversy. Arthur Godfrey, a long-time audience favorite at CBS, had two prime time programs ranked in the top 10; during the 1950s he did not get along with Dann and left CBS as a result. (The fact that Godfrey disappeared from public view suggests that Dann was probably correct in his assessment that Godfrey was "over the hill".)

Dann was also able to restore and establish good and long-lasting relationships with talent producers and advertisers--an area in which CBS had suffered. He felt that viewers preferred "escapist" television to "realist" television, and thought the half-hour situation comedy was the staple of any prime time schedule. He also believed the network should renew any program with ratings high enough to produce a profit.

Another development during Dann's regime was a significant increase in the number of "specials" aired. While the staple of prime time programming was, and remains, the weekly series, Dann believed that liberal use of special programming at strategic times would only enhance the network's ratings. One could argue that he was the innovator of what has come to be called "event television".

In 1966, he recognized that television (and CBS, in particular) faced a major crisis--the networks were running out of first-run theatrical movies. As a result, CBS bought the old Republic Pictures lot, turned it into the CBS Studio Center, and went into feature film production. ABC and NBC soon followed suit.

Among the many successful programs introduced under Dann's leadership were The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Carol Burnett Show, Mission: Impossible, Mannix, Hawaii Five-0, and 60 Minutes. These program development and programming skills were put to the test in one particular instance. For years CBS had trouble competing in the very important 9:00-10:00 P.M. slot on Sunday evenings, despite a very strong lead-in program (The Ed Sullivan Show). NBC had Bonanza, the highly successful series, in that time period and CBS had failed with its previous counter-programming attempts (Judy Garland, Garry Moore, Perry Mason). Dann chose a new series for this slot, a series he believed would attract a younger audience, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. The move proved quite successful. The Smothers Brothers' show became a hit, though not without more than its share of controversy. The most notable conflict arose over an episode involving folk singer Pete Seeger in 1967, who was scheduled to sing his anti-war song "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy". Dann wanted Seeger to delete one stanza of the song. When Seeger and the Smothers refused, Dann had the song deleted from the telecast. In February 1968, Seeger was again scheduled to appear. This time the song, in its entirety aired.

Dann's conservative attitudes toward social and cultural standards appeared again when CBS decided to air the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Dann had the producers make one change--Mary could not be a divorced woman. He felt that premise too controversial and forced James L. Brooks and Allan Burns to rewrite the character as a woman who had recently broken off a long-term engagement.

Dann's power at CBS began to wane in the late 1960s, as did the ratings of some of the shows he had developed and scheduled. His new boss, Robert Wood, wanted innovation, not sameness. Dann was forced out when he opposed cancellation of hit "rural" series: The Red Skelton Show, The Jackie Gleason Show, Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, and Hee Haw. These shows were replaced by series such as All in the Family, deemed more socially relevant and, perhaps more importantly, more appealing to a younger age group whose greater spending power attracted advertisers. The public explanation for Dann's departure was the ever-available and undefined "health reasons." His successor was his protégé, Fred Silverman, who would go on to head the programming departments of all three networks.

-Mitchell E. Shapiro

 

 

FURTHER READING

Barnouw, Erik. A History of Broadcasting in the United States, Volume III: The Image Empire. New York: Oxford University Press, 1970.

Marc, David, and Robert J. Thompson. Prime Time, Prime Movers: From I Love Lucy to L.A. Law, America's Greatest TV Shows and the People Who Created Them. Boston: Little, Brown, 1992.

Metz, Robert. CBS: Reflections in a Bloodshot Eye. Chicago: Playboy, 1975.

Paley, William S. As It Happened: A Memoir. Garden City, New York: Doubleday, 1979.

Shapiro, Mitchell E. Television Network Prime-Time Programming, 1948-1988. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland, 1989.

Slater, Robert. This...Is CBS: A Chronicle of 60 Years. Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice Hall, 1988.  

MICHAEL DANN. Born in Detroit, Michigan, U.S.A., 11 September 1921. Educated at the University of Michigan, B.A. in Economics, 1941. Married: 1) Joanne Himmell, 1949 (divorced, 1973), children: Jonathan, Patricia, and Priscilla; 2) Louise Cohen, 1973. Comedy writer, 1946-47; public relations staff of the New Haven Rail Road, 1947-48; trade editor, NBC for press department, 1948-49; coordinator of program package sales, 1949-50; supervisor, special telecasts, 1950-52; manager, television program department, 1952-54; director, program sales, 1954-56; vice-president, television program sales, 1956-58; vice-president, network programming at CBS, 1958-63; vice-president, programs for CBS, 1963-66; senior vice-president, CBS, 1966-70; vice-president and assistant to president of Children's Television Workshop, 1970s; consultant to Warner Cable, planning programming for QUBE, 1974; developed concepts for Disney's Epcot Center; senior program advisor for ABC Video Enterprises, 1980; visiting lecturer in american studies and guest fellow of Yale University, 1973-78.

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Highlights

  • Michael Dann on the high point of his career - working with Pat Weaver (01m 29s)Michael Dann on the high point of his career - working with Pat Weaver (01m 29s)
  • Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on <i>The Mary Tyler Moore Show</i> (03m 12s)Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (03m 12s)
  • Michael Dann on taking <i>The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour</i> off the air (02m 31s)Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air (02m 31s)
  • Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television (02m 01s)Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television (02m 01s)
  • Michael Dann on his involvement with <i>The Defenders</i> (02m 23s)Michael Dann on his involvement with The Defenders (02m 23s)

Chapters

  • Chapter 1
  • On his childhood and early influences; on ushering in theaters in high school and working as an army correspondent during World War II
  • On how the Great Depression affected his family; on listening to radio in the 1930s and 1940s; on his start in radio comedy writing for Jack Albertson
  • On his start in television in the NBC press department and then NBC News in 1948
  • Chapter 2
  • On his radio work in New York; on the early days of television at NBC
  • On moving from the press department to the news department in 1949; on early television programming at NBC
  • On Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and the beginning of participating sponsorship
  • Chapter 3
  • On The Chicago School of Television; on early dramas and variety shows - Texaco Star Theater
  • On Pat Weaver's programming innovations; on early televison anthology programs and the need to shoot variety programs in color
  • Chapter 4
  • On moving to CBS to become Vice President of New York programs; on Your Hit Parade, The Defenders and other CBS programs he approved
  • On working with CBS' Jim Aubrey, Frank Stanton, and William Paley
  • Chapter 5
  • On his involvement with the show Medic; on the raciness permitted then and now on television
  • On his process for scheduling prime time television at CBS; on his crisis decisions at CBS
  • Chapter 6
  • On getting The Defenders on the air
  • On The Hollywood Blacklist; on leaving CBS; on the cable industry and evolving technology
  • On his reflections on working in the industry; on the future of television
  • Chapter 7
  • On his thoughts on people with whom he's worked; on today's most talented producers
  • On the future of television

Shows

  • Bewitched
    • Michael Dann on how he lost Bewitched (02m 58s)
  • Born Free
    • Michael Dann on Fred Silverman's scheduling advice to promote  Born Free as a children's show (01m 30s)
  • CBS Playhouse
    • Michael Dann on his involvement with CBS Playhouse (01m 30s)
  • Colgate Comedy Hour, The
    • Michael Dann on producing The Colgate Comedy Hour (03m 41s)
  • Death of a Salesman
    • Michael Dann on his involvement with Death of a Salesman
      (01m 20s)
  • Defenders, The
    • Michael Dann on his involvement with The Defenders (02m 23s)
    • Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders (00m 33s)
    • Michael Dann on getting The Defenders on the air (06m 33s)
  • Dick Van Dyke Show, The
    • Michael Dann on wanting to air an episode of The Dick Van Dyke Show in which the son walks in on his parents making love (03m 12s)
  • Ding Dong School
    • Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television
      (02m 01s)
  • Garroway-at-Large
    • Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television
      (02m 01s)
  • Home Show, The
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show
      (03m 17s)
  • Jack Carter Show, The
    • Michael Dann on Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television
      (03m 41s)
  • Kukla, Fran & Ollie
    • Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television
      (02m 01s)
  • Mary Tyler Moore Show, The
    • Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (03m 12s)
  • Medic
    • Michael Dann on his involvement with Medic, the first series to show the birth of a baby (04m 11s)
  • Nurses, The
    • Michael Dann on defending producers and voting in favor of a scene many questioned on The Nurses (00m 59s)
  • Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse
    • Michael Dann on production of Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse (01m 10s)
  • Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour, The
    • Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air (02m 31s)
  • Studs’ Place
    • Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television
      (02m 01s)
  • Texaco Star Theater (1948-53)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle's humor (00m 39s)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater
      (02m 55s)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle and the cancellation of Texaco Star Theater
      (00m 57s)
  • Today
    • Michael Dann on station managers not believing people would get up early enough to watch Today (00m 30s)
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show (03m 17s)
  • Tonight (The Tonight Show with Steve Allen)
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show
      (03m 17s)
  • Your Hit Parade
    • Michael Dann on revamping Your Hit Parade
      (06m 58s)
  • Your Show of Shows
    • Michael Dann on early television variety shows
      (01m 44s)
    • Michael Dann on Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television
      (02m 50s)

People

  • Jack Albertson
    • Mike Dann on his start as a comedy writer for Jack Albertson (02m 13s)
  • Jim Aubrey
    • Michael Dann on his opinion of Jim Aubrey (03m 58s)
    • Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey
      (01m 49s)
    • Michael Dann on Jim Aubrey not liking The Defenders (06m 33s)
  • Milton Berle
    • Michael Dann on early television variety shows (02m 42s)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater (02m 55s)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle and the cancellation of Texaco Star Theater
      (00m 57s)
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle's humor
      (00m 39s)
  • Herbert Brodkin
    • Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders (00m 11s)
    • Michael Dann on The Defenders' producer Herbert Brodkin (06m 33s)
  • Carol Burnett
    • Michael Dann on Carol Burnett (00m 36s)
  • Sid Caesar
    • Michael Dann on Sid Caesar (00m 15s)
  • Joseph Cates
    • Michael Dann on Joseph Cates (00m 27s)
  • Fred Coe
    • Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis (03m 14s)
    • Michael Dann on Fred Coe (00m 54s)
    • Michael Dann on Fred Coe's eye for quality programming (00m 36s)
  • Norman Felton
    • Michael Dann on producers Norman Felton and Perry Lafferty (01m 18s)
  • Fred Friendly
    • Michael Dann on Fred Friendly (03m 58s)
  • Joan Ganz Cooney
    • Michael Dann on Joan Ganz Cooney (00m 44s)
  • Peter Gennaro
    • Michael Dann on Peter Gennaro, choreographer of Your Hit Parade
      (00m 23s)
  • Jackie Gleason
    • Michael Dann on Jackie Gleason (00m 39s)
  • Arthur Godfrey
    • Michael Dann on simulcasting early radio broadcasts for television and Arthur Godfrey's early success on CBS Television
      (01m 08s)
  • Leonard Goldenson
    • Michael Dann on Leonard Goldenson embracing cable (00m 25s)
  • Norman Jewison
    • Michael Dann on wanting Norman Jewison to direct Your Hit Parade
      (01m 53s)
  • Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver
    • Michael Dann on Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television
      (02m 50s)
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and the beginning of participating sponsorship (05m 46s)
    • Michael Dann on working with Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver (03m 14s)
    • Michael Dann on the high point of his career - working with Pat Weaver (01m 29s)
    • Michael Dann on working with Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver (04m 39s)
  • Perry Lafferty
    • Michael Dann on producers Norman Felton and Perry Lafferty
      (01m 18s)
    • Michael Dann on wanting Perry Lafferty to revamp Your Hit Parade (06m 58s)
  • Sheldon Leonard
    • Michael Dann on Sheldon Leonard (00m 48s)
  • Max Liebman
    • Michael Dann on congratulating Max Liebman after every show to keep morale up (00m 56s)
  • Martin Manulis
    • Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis
      (03m 14s)
  • Elizabeth Montgomery
    • Michael Dann on how he lost Bewitched
      (02m 58s)
  • Robert Montgomery
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver discovering Robert Montgomery (01m 18s)
  • Mike Nichols
    • Michael Dann on Mike Nichols (00m 24s)
  • Carl Reiner
    • Michael Dann on Carl Reiner (00m 39s)
  • William S. Paley
    • Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey
      (02m 30s)
    • Michael Dann on William S. Paley's thoughts on The Defenders (03m 03s)
    • Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color; on William Paley adopting color
      (01m 56s)
    • Michael Dann on William S. Paley's knack for television programming and his management style (04m 26s)
    • Michael Dann on CBS founder William S. Paley (00m 38s)
  • David Sarnoff
    • Michael Dann on David Sarnoff giving him a television set and an allowance to hold television parties (05m 46s)
    • Michael Dann on David Sarnoff firing Sylvester L. “Pat” Weaver
      (00m 32s)
    • Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color (01m 56s)
    • Michael Dann on Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and David Sarnoff's vision
      (02m 09s)
  • Sherwood Schwartz
    • Michael Dann on Sherwood Schwartz (00m 31s)
  • Irwin Segelstein
    • Michael Dann on Irwin Segelstein (01m 20s)
  • Fred Silverman
    • Michael Dann on Fred Silverman's scheduling advice to promote  Born Free as a children's show (01m 30s)
    • Michael Dann on Fred Silverman (01m 51s)
  • Gary Smith
    • Michael Dann on Gary Smith, designer of Your Hit Parade
      (00m 17s)
  • Tom Smothers
    • Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air (02m 31s)
    • Michael Dann on Tom Smothers reaction to getting fired and making it political (00m 54s)
  • Dick Smothers
    • Michael Dann on taking  The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour  off the air (02m 31s)
  • Frank Stanton
    • Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey (02m 30s)
  • Brandon Stoddard
    • Michael Dann on Brandon Stoddard (00m 33s)
  • Ed Sullivan
    • Michael Dann on early television variety shows
      (02m 42s)
    • Michael Dann on Ed Sullivan (00m 09s)
  • David Susskind
    • Michael Dann on David Susskind's  (00m 34s)
  • Jessica Tandy
    • Michael Dann on Jim Aubrey not liking Jessica Tandy as the wife in The Defenders (00m 22s)
  • Brandon Tartikoff
    • Michael Dann on Brandon Tartikoff (00m 16s)
  • Grant Tinker
    • Michael Dann on Grant Tinker (00m 35s)
  • Mary Tyler Moore
    • Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (03m 12s)
  • Worthington “Tony” Miner
    • Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis
      (03m 24s)

Topics

  • Choose ..
  • Technological Innovation
    • Michael Dann on the coming of digital programming and sets
      (01m 04s)
    • Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color
      (01m 56s)
    • Michael Dann on the cable industry and evolving technology (07m 36s)
    • Michael Dann on the prospect of digital cable (00m 20s)
  • Television Industry > Censorship / Standards & Practices
    • Michael Dann on being ordered by Program Practices to intervene with The Smothers Brothers (01m 48s)
    • Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air (02m 31s)
    • Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders (00m 33s)
  • Television Industry > Industry Crossroads > Hollywood Blacklist (ca. 1950s)
    • Michael Dann on The Hollywood Blacklist (02m 00s)

Genres

  • Drama Series
    • Michael Dann on getting The Defenders on the air (06m 33s)
  • Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials
    • Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater
      (02m 55s)
    • Michael Dann on revamping Your Hit Parade
      (06m 58s)
    • Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air (02m 31s)
  • News and Documentary
    • Mike Dann on his start in NBC News (04m 15s)
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