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Steven Bochco

Writer/Producer

"The advice I’d have to give producers is take responsibility for what’s up there, good or bad. Preferably bad. Always share the responsibility when it’s good.  Take all the responsibility if it’s bad."

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Steven Bochco, a producer known to “push the envelope” in many of the series he created and produced attests to experiencing as much drama behind-the- scenes as on the screen. On producing Hill Street Blues he says, “there is something that is truly magical when you catch lightning in a bottle.  And here we’ve got a whole bottle full and you've got to fight very hard.  So, every day in my life, I was fighting something.  Usually the network, a lot of broadcast standards was a battle.  Every day, for five years honest to God.”  In his two-part Archive interview, Bochco talks about his early interest in writing, his college career at Carnegie Mellon and his move to Los Angeles.  He then discusses his first job at Universal Studios, which led him into his first professional writing assignments on Bob Hope Presents Chrysler Theatre, Ironside , Columbo, The Name of the Game   and his first producing duties on Leiutentant Schuster’s Wife . He discusses his move to MTM Enterprises and the creative freedom he was given. Bochco then discusses at length the creation and production of Hill Street Blues. He then chronicles leaving MTM and developing L.A. Law  and then briefly touches on his other shows Doogie Howser, M.D., Hooperman, Cop Rock, Capitol Critters, The Byrds of Paradise, Murder One, Brooklyn South, City of Angels and Philly. He details his work on NYPD Blue and the negotiations he went through to push the boundaries of language and nudity on network television. In summing up, he discusses what he sees as the role of a producer. The two-part interview was took place on May 21 and September 12, 2002; Karen Herman conducted the six-hour interview.

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Video: Hill Street Blues full pilot episode "Hill Street Station" (airdate: January 15, 1981)

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from the Museum of Broadcast Communications Encyclopedia of Television

Steven Bochco has become a brand name for American quality television in the 1980s and 1990s. With a reputation for not contenting himself with given formats or standard practices, Bochco has developed a unique "style," perhaps several unique styles for his work. His firm's logo--a concert violinist playing a short section of Vivaldi's "Four Seasons"--constantly reminds us of Bochco's creative intentions and artistic "higher aims" while at the same time indicating his roots in a more traditional humanistic education. Bochco's father Rudolph was a concert violinist, and his mother, Mimi Bochco, a painter.

He began writing for television after graduating from college. He always considered himself to be a writer, and when, in the 1960s, MCA gave writing grants to theater departments around the country, he jumped at the occasion. As he puts it in a 1988 interview with Michael Winship: "I had an MCA writing fellowship when I was in college, and I used that to sort of con my way into a summer job at Universal Studios between my junior and senior years. They put me in the story department as an assistant to its head, and at the end of that summer, they invited me to come back permanently when I graduated." Mike Ludmer, then head of Universal's story department, made sure everyone on the lot got to know the talented young man with no writing experience at all. Bochco's first writing credit (with Harry Tatelman) came with a segment of the Bob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theater called "A Slow Fade to Black", starring Rod Serling.

Steven Bochco stayed twelve years with Universal, working his way up from writer to story editor (for the Robert Stack segments in the adventure drama series The Name of the Game, which aired from 1968 to 1971, and later for Columbo). He went on to produce, starting with "Lt. Shuster's Wife", a Movie of the Week for ABC, starring Lee Grant. He also had to learn how to handle flops: Griff, made for ABC (1973), was supposed to become a post-Bonanza vehicle for Lorne Greene. The series lasted a only few days into 1974. The same experience occurred with his next series, The Invisible Man, an update of the classical H.G. Wells story for NBC (1975-76). Delvecchio, made for CBS in 1976, bloomed one full season before being canceled in June 1977. Bochco was co-producer and wrote eight of the twenty scripts eventually broadcast. On Delvecchio he met Michael Kozoll, with whom he later co-created and co-wrote Hill Street Blues. Both Charles Haid and Michael Conrad were regulars of the show, and both would later find themselves among the regular cast of Hill Street Blues.

While at Universal, Steven Bochco wrote episodes for McMillan and Wife and Ironside as well as other series. He was involved in different movie-projects, such as The Counterfeit Killings (1968) and Silent Running (1972), both for theatrical release, and Double Indemnity for ABC (1973). His last project for Universal was Richie Brockelman, Private Eye (NBC, 1978), starring Dennis Dugan, Robert Hogan and Barbara Bosson, Steven Bochco's wife, a short-lived spin-off to Stephen J. Cannell's and Roy Huggins' successful detective drama The Rockford Files.

Bochco left Universal in 1978 for MTM Enterprises. One of the reasons to leave was his apparent wish to break new ground, in and outside the confined world of action-adventure drama series. He also felt there was more to learn about producing than what Universal had to offer. His first venture in the name of the meowing kitten was a Movie of the Week called Vampire, co-written with Michael Kozoll. Then came Paris, a police drama series (for CBS, 1979) which lasted, again, just a few days into 1980. Paris was interesting in terms of quality writing. There were unusual stories, focused on a black police captain moonlighting as a criminology-teacher at a nearby university. The impressive cast was headed by James Earl Jones as Woody Paris. But there was, or so it seemed, just not enough old-fashioned "spice" to attract a larger audience.

In January 1980, NBC asked MTM if Bochco and Kozoll could come up with something for them. Vague ideas about an ensemble piece set in a hotel lobby led nowhere. (The concept would later be developed by Aaron Spelling to become Hotel.) What NBC wanted was a cop melodrama, a cop ensemble piece. Bochco and Kozoll agreed under two conditions: total creative control and a meeting about network standards. The result of that meeting was Hill Street Blues, a cop show setting new rules for almost every aspect of the action-adventure formula. As David Marc and Robert J. Thompson put it, Hill Street Blues set standards for "... multiple centers of audience identification; complicated personal lives; overlapping dialogue; hand-held camera shots; busy, crowded mise-en-scènes." The show also established its own realistic, "dirty" look and defined a fictional world, "the Hill," that could be understood as a metaphorical melting pot, a community (or family) consisting of members of almost any nation and race that had ever set foot in America. These elements could later be recognized, in a more accented and refined matter, in many drama series developed in the 1990s, set in police precincts (NYPD Blue, by Bochco and Hill Street Blues co-writer David Milch) or hospitals or courtrooms.

Hill Street Blues earned its creators several Emmies (for "Outstanding Drama Series" and "Outstanding Writing", among others) and a Golden Globe for "Best Television Drama Series". Still, MTM remained somewhat unhappy about its prestige object, which was very expensive and never made able to pay off financially. Hill Street Blues lasted from 1981 well into 1987; Bochco was fired in 1985, after the disastrous short run of another of his (and MTM's) high-brow series projects, The Bay City Blues (NBC, 1983). Later, for 20th Century Fox, Bochco developed another long-running hit, a legal drama called L.A. Law (NBC, 1986-94). On this project he served as co-producer with Terry Louise Fischer. As often noted, L.A. Law looked very similar to Hill Street Blues set in a fancy law office, with many characters and stories intertwined in each episode. Bochco himself pointed out the differences between the two shows, however, describing L.A. Law as "... populated by people who are infinitely more successful. They make more money, they drive nicer cars, they have prettier girlfriends, they're possibly smarter, and they win more." But the series maintained its "bluesy" feeling, a certain notion of the world being a much too complicated and absurd place to live in, with rules no one would ever really understand.

Besides crime and courtroom dramas (Civil Wars, dealing with divorce cases lasted from 1991 to 1993) Bochco developed one quite successful half-hour comedy drama, together with David Kelley. Doogie Howser, M.D. (ABC, 1989-93) told the improbable story of perhaps the youngest doctor ever to do medical examinations on-screen. The mild-mannered youngster was only sixteen when his professional career began. Bochco wouldn't be Bochco without at least one taboo being broken: Here, Neil Patrick Harris hit the news when his character lost his virginity, in one of the later episodes of the series.

 

 

 

 

 


The wish to break new ground on prime time, in terms of content as well as in aesthetic matters, has become even more apparent in Bochco's television productions for the 1990s. Some of these attempts were flops. The infamous experiment attempting to combine the cop show with a musical in Cop Rock (ABC, 1990) lasted for only a few weeks.

NYPD Blue (ABC 1993--), however, earned its cast and crew six Emmies in 1994 alone. It was basically another ensemble piece, set in a police precinct right in Bochco's childhood home, New York. With NYPD Blue Bochco tried to expand the limits of network standards even further, experimenting with gritty realism, or documentarism, filmed in a highly stylized, self-reflexive manner. The show was controversial even before its appearance on the schedule because Bochco had announced that he would include far coarser language and some nudity in his move toward realism.

Steven Bochco has earned himself a reputation for re-inventing the formula of the cop-show with Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue. He certainly has introduced a new understanding of television realism, complete with partial nudity and four-letter words, into prime time--despite network Standards and Practices and actual boycotts of advertisers and network affiliates around the country in the case of NYPD Blue. Thanks to him the term "teamwork" has taken on new meaning in television producing: It means quality writing, and it means intriguing, interesting stories of human bonding and struggle which drive the actors, individually and again collectively, to give their best. Bochco has thus succeeded in integrating different aspects and perspectives into what seems (or seemed) to be one and the same story.

New projects in the post-O.J.Simpson-era continue his tendency toward innovation in the area of narrative structure. A new courtroom drama, Murder One (1995-1997), followed a single murder trial for an entire season, interweaving personal and professional lives of a large cast of characters.

-Ursula Ganz-Blattler

STEVEN BOCHCO. Born in New York City, New York, U.S., 16 December 1943. Attended High School of Music and Art, Manhattan, New York; New York University, Manhattan; Carnegie Institute of Technology (now Carnegie-Mellon University), B.F.A. in Theater 1966. Married Barbara Bosson, 1969; children: Jeffrey and Melissa. Assistant to head of story department, Universal Television, 1966; and subsequent writer of various other Universal television series; joined MTM Enterprises as writer-producer, 1978; formed Steven Bochco Productions and entered into production deal with Twentieth-Century Fox and ABC, 1987. Awards: Emmy Awards: 1971, 1972, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1989.

TELEVISION SERIES

1967-75 Ironside (writer)
1968-72 The Name of the Game (writer)
1971 Columbo (story editor)
1971-76 McMillan and Wife (writer)
1974 Griff (writer-producer)
1976-77 Delvecchio (writer)
1978 Richie Brockelman (writer)
1979 Turnabout (writer)
1979-80 Paris (executive-producer, writer)
1981 Hill Street Blues (executive-producer, writer)
1983 Bay City Blues (executive-producer, writer)
1986 L.A. Law (executive-producer, writer)
1987 Hooperman (executive-producer, writer)
1989 Doogie Howser, M.D. (executive-producer, writer)
1990 Cop Rock (executive-producer, writer)
1991 Civil Wars (executive-producer, writer)
1993 N.Y.P.D. Blue (executive-producer, writer)
1995- Murder One (executive-producer, writer)

PUBLICATIONS

"Steven Bochco." (interview), American Film (Washington, D.C.), July-August 1988.

"Steven Bochco: Taking Risks with Television." (interview), Broadcasting (Washington, D.C.), 6 May 1991.

FURTHER READING

Christensen, Mark. "Bochco's Law." Rolling Stone (New York), 21 April 1988.

Coe, Steve, and Harry A. Jessel. "'NYPD Blue': Rocky Start, On a Roll." (includes interview with Steven Bochco), Broadcasting & Cable (Washington, D.C.), 1 November 1993.

Feuer, Jane, Paul Kerr, and Tise Vahimagi, editors. MTM. Quality Television. London: British Film Institute, 1984.

Gitlin, Todd. Inside Prime-Time. New York: Pantheon, 1983.

Levinson, Richard, and William Link. Off Camera. Conversations with the Makers of Prime-Time Television. New York: New American Library, 1986.

Marc, David, and Robert Thompson. Prime Time, Prime Movers: From I Love Lucy to L.A. Law--America's Greatest TV Shows and The People Who Create Them. Boston, Massachusetts: Little, Brown, 1992.

Rensin, David. "Hitmaker Steven Bochco Defends Adult Drama." TV Guide (Radnor, Pennsylvania), 14-20 April 1993.

Selnow, Gary W., and Richard R. Gilbert. Society's Impact on Television. How the Viewing Public Shapes Television Programming. London: Westport, 1993.

Span, Paula. "Bochco On the Edge." Esquire (New York), May 1990.

Stempel, Tom. Storytellers to the Nation. A History of American Television Writing. New York: Continuum 1992.

"Steven Bochco." Esquire (New York), June 1988.

"20th Century's Bochco: Selling the Cerebral." Broadcasting (Washington, D.C.), 30 May 1988.

Zoglin, Richard. "Changing the Face of Prime Time: Trendsetting Producer Steven Bochco Turns Out Hits by Rocking the Boat." Time (New York), 2 May 1988.

_______________. "Bochco Under Fire." Time (New York), 27 September 1993.

 

 

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Watch Interview Highlights

  • Steven Bochco on his first professional writing credit
  • Steven Bochco on learning the craft of dramatic writing from Richard Levinson and William Link on Columbo
  • Steven Bochco on joining MTM Enterprises and feeling empowered to do his best work
  • Steven Bochco on the genesis of Hill Street Blues

Watch By Chapter

  • Chapter 1
  • On his early years and influences and gravitating toward writing as a student at Carnegie Mellon
  • On his first job at Universal where he ran a writing fellowship program and began to write for television
  • On his first television writing credit, an elongation of a Rod Serling Chrysler Theatre teleplay
  • On working on the series The Name of the Game , meeting his early mentor Dick Irving, writing  Lt. Schuster’s Wife ,  the film Silent Runner , and ultimately deciding to become a producer
  • Chapter 2
  • On writing additional material for the series Ironside
  • On working on the Universal series Columbo , under the mentorship of Levinson and Link
  • On writing the TV movie Lieutenant Schuster's Wife, his ill-fated producing of Griff , and working on McMillan & Wife
  • On rewriting the pilot for The Six Million Dollar Man and eventually joining Delvecchio where he continued to learn his craft under the guidance of William Sackheim
  • Chapter 3
  • On producing Delvecchio
  • On producing Richie Brockelman, Private Eye with Stephen Cannell and then leaving Universal to join MTM Enterprises 
  • On executive producing Paris and working with star James Earl Jones
  • On the beginnings of Hill Street Blues and how he negotiated creative control from NBC
  • Chapter 4
  • On developing the look and feel of Hill Street Blues and his fight for creative control
  • On some of the problems on the set of Hill Street Blues and how he maintained control as a producer
  • On NBC head Fred Silverman's opinion of Hill Street Blues and his later dealings with Brandon Tartikoff when launching L.A. Law
  • On developing the look of Hill Street Blues with directors Robert Butler and Gregory Hoblit
  • On the writing of Hill Street Blues
  • Chapter 5
  • On the creation of trademark elements of Hill Street Blues (roll call, story arcs, blackouts, opening sequence)
  • On the casting of Hill Street Blues
  • On some of the significant storylines on Hill Street Blues
  • Steven Bochco on the casting of Hill Street Blues and how the stars dealt with newfound celebrity
  • Chapter 6
  • On moving to 20th Century Fox and developing L.A. Law and how L.A. Law differed from his previous show, Hill Street Blues
  • On L.A. Law's storylines and his hiring of David E. Kelley
  • On the development of Hooperman
  • On being offered the presidency of CBS and meeting with William Paley 
  • Chapter 7
  • On creating and producing Doogie Howser, M.D. 
  • On creating and producing Cop Rock
  • On Civil Wars
  • On creating the animated series Capitol Critters
  • On creating and producing NYPD Blue
  • On The Byrds of Paradise
  • On producing Murder One
  • On producing Public Morals
  • Chapter 8
  • On the difficulties of producing Brooklyn South at the same time as NYPD Blue  
  • On producing City of Angels  
  • On producing Philly
  • On his proudest achievement in his career and pushing the envelope
  • On his advice to aspiring writers or producers
  • On concluding part 1 of his interview
  • Chapter 9
  • On the creation and development of L.A. Law 
  • On the casting of L.A. Law
  • On the writing of L.A. Law
  • On the 2001 L.A. Law reunion movie
  • On creating, casting and writing Doogie Howser, M.D.
  • Chapter 10
  • On creating the journal opening on Doogie Howser, M.D .
  • On leaving Doogie Howser, M.D . after 3 seasons
  • On creating and producing Cop Rock
  • On creating NYPD Blue with David Milch
  • On the pilot episode of NYPD Blue
  • On dealing with ABC on the boundaries for language and nudity on NYPD Blue
  • On the "Milch-speak" dialogue on NYPD Blue and his working relationship with David Milch
  • On NYPD Blue castmembers Nicholas Turturro and David Caruso
  • Chapter 11
  • On some of the castmembers of NYPD Blue
  • On some of the castmembers of NYPD Blue [continued]
  • On the process of producing NYPD Blue
  • On how the events of 9/11 did not fundamentally alter NYPD Blue and what he thinks is the show's signature
  • On Public Morals, which lasted one episode
  • On the craft of writing and producing
  • Chapter 12
  • On the importance of music in his work
  • On budgeting, multitasking, and negotiating deals
  • On the project he was developing in 2002, NYPD 2069
  • On his views of television today and the mentors he's had in the business
  • On his advice to aspiring producers

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  • Brooklyn South
    • Clip 1
  • Byrds of Paradise, The
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  • Capitol Critters
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  • Chrysler Theatre
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  • City of Angels (2000, CBS)
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  • Civil Wars
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  • Columbo
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  • Doogie Howser, M.D.
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  • Hill Street Blues
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    • Clip 3
    • Clip 4
    • Clip 5
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  • Ironside
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  • L. A. Law
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    • Clip 2
    • Clip 3
    • Clip 4
    • Clip 5
    • Clip 6
    • Clip 7
    • Clip 8
    • Clip 9
    • Clip 10
    • Clip 11
  • NYPD Blue
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    • Clip 2
    • Clip 3
    • Clip 4
    • Clip 5
    • Clip 6
    • Clip 7
    • Clip 8
  • Name of the Game, The
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  • Paris
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  • Philly
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  • Public Morals
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    • Clip 2
  • Richie Brockelman, Private Eye
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  • Six Million Dollar Man, The
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  • Robert A. “Bob” Iger
  • Corbin Bernsen
  • Amy Brenneman
  • Dan Burke
  • Robert Butler
  • David Caruso
  • Gordon Clapp
  • Bill Clark
  • Michael Conrad
  • Bing Crosby
  • Larry Drake
  • Richard Dysart
  • David E. Kelley
  • James Earl Jones
  • Stuart Erwin
  • Peter Falk
  • Dennis Franz
  • Mark-Paul Gosselaar
  • Lorne Greene
  • Charles Haid
  • Veronica Hamel
  • Harry Hamlin
  • Gregory Hoblit
  • Dick Irving
  • Daniel J. Travanti
  • Stephen J. Cannell
  • Michael Kozoll
  • Richard Levinson
  • William Link and Richard Levinson
  • Terry Louise Fisher
  • Terry Louise FIsher
  • James McDaniel
  • David Milch
  • Leslie Moonves
  • Randy Newman
  • Neil Patrick Harris
  • Mike Post
  • Frank Price
  • Howard Rodman
  • William S. Paley
  • William Sackheim
  • Rick Schroder
  • David Schwimmer
  • Fred Silverman
  • Jimmy Smits
  • Steven Spielberg
  • Sherry Stringfield
  • Brandon Tartikoff
  • Grant Tinker
  • Larry Tisch
  • Blair Underwood
  • Bruce Weitz

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